From that treasure Bard sent much gold to the Master of Lake-town; and he rewarded his followers and friends freely. He had many hardships and adventures before he got back. Asked by cody f #263209 on 9/3/2012 5:07 PM Last updated by jill d #170087 on 9/3/2012 5:32 PM Answers 1 Add Yours. Because he lives a hero, one will not fail to recognize him. The following five sections further define the terms used in s. 1(1) TA 1968. He was lying on the flat stones of Ravenhill, and no one was near. They would not stay here, and departed with the first light of morning. He was shaking, and as. "And I name you elf-friend and blessed. What has it got in its pocketses? Bilbo pities Gollum and so, even though Gollum "meant to kill [Bilbo]," he can't just stab Gollum without warning in the dark. When Bilbo was giving gifts to Frodo he gave him a shirt. O Gandalf!" Thranduil turned from his course, sending aid before him over the river. "Hullo there!" After the battle, on the Elven new year, Thranduil and Celeborn met, renamed the forest, and divided it between themselves and the woodsmen. Press J to jump to the feed. When Bilbo came to himself, he was literally by himself. After the war was over Legolas returned to his homeland and, with his fathers approval, took some of their people to south Gondor, where they restored the forest of Ithilien to its former beauty, and health. In Lrien, three attacks were repelled, after which Dol Guldur was taken and Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits. Fili and Kili had fallen defending him with shield and body, for he was their mother's elder brother. What do you think would have happened at this stage if Gandalf hadn't suddenly called a halt because the goblins are coming? I find there is an irresistible charm about it and I love the story. Then, somewhere in the pitch-dark night, Bilbo strikes dead a most nefarious enemy. Which creatures does Bilbo think it is OK to kill? And merry be all your folk! Bilbo decides first to go on an adventure with Gandalf and thirteen dwarves. I need a change, or something., The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. he said. Dain, Thorin's cousin, is actually willing to ambush the elf and human armies just so he can get to his cousin in the Lonely Mountain. The One Ring was destroyed. I cant think what anybody sees in them., Victory after all, I suppose! and he brought out a necklace of silver and pearls that Dain had given him at their parting. "If ever you visit us again, when our halls are made fair once more, then the feast shall indeed be splendid! At first Bilbo is a small little hobbit that is afraid of adventure. People with super strength, or speed, or both are often what come to mind. Thranduil's birthdate is unknown. All these thoughts passed in a flash of a second. Yet a fourteenth share of all the silver and gold, wrought and unwrought, was given up to Bard; for Dain said: "We will honour the agreement of the dead, and he has now the Arkenstone in his keeping.". This is all the more remarkable, since he was a hobbit. The dragon would naturally disagree, wouldnt he? Suddenly without a signal [the dwarves] sprang silently forward to attack. ", "Farewell! They all venture far away to a mountain, in hope of reclaiming their treasure that has been taken over by a mischievous dragon. May your shadow never grow less (or stealing would be too easy)! We have discussed that the dwarves seem to operate in a moral grey area that the elves do not seem to share would Tolkien's elves be capable of this kind of treachery? Also noticed near the end of the eye catching book, Now I wonder what has happened? he said to himself. Farewell!" -The Return Journey . Bilbo must further have appropriated such property. He pick pocketed the Troll and he skulked in the wood elves domain for weeks stealing food and information. He had decided that he was not quite his sort, and wanted him to go away. he said more gravely. It is hinted in The Hobbit that the slow degradation of resources over the long years, combined with the spreading of Men's power and influence, and the fight for their survival against growing evil affected them deeply, and they became suspicious and hard. "Now I wonder what has happened?" So he isnt a thief as regards what he was hired to do. I mean even a burglar has his feelings. Some may consider he or shes mentor as old and wise, however they would be incorrect in this instance, for Gandalf remains much more than just old and wise. "Now I wonder what has happened?" he said to himself. Good bye!, Bother burgling and everything to do with it! But the dragon did not wake not yet but shifted into other dreams of greed and violence, lying there in his stolen hall while the little hobbit toiled back up the long tunnel. "Well I'm blessed!" I have been sent to look here for the last time. But they came to that high point at morning, and looking backward they saw a white sun shining over the out-stretched lands. What news?" Welcome to r/tolkienfans! Thats how they all came to start, jogging off from the inn one fine morning just before May, on laden ponies (30-1). Every book has its hero, mentor, and guardian, but not just every book has Bilbo Baggins as their hero or The Great Gandalf as its mentor. The Hobbit is my favorite book. The owner thereof is Thorin (through inheritance). I mean, I should have liked to see them again," said Bilbo sleepily; "perhaps I shall see them on the way home. said the man striding forward. And I name you elf-friend and blessed. I havent had a close look at whether A giving B the property of C as a bargaining chip to be used against C (with the potential prospect that it will be returned) falls under the intention permanently to deprive, but given the wording of s. 6(1),(2) Theft Act 1968, I assume that Bilbo would be guilty of theft. "I beg of you," said Bilbo stammering and standing on one foot, "to accept this gift!" Suddenly he was aware of a man climbing up and coming towards him. Their bearers became weary from the long years of using the Rings and sailed west. Another reason is explained by looking at Thranduil's questions to the Dwarves. And it explicitly says that most of his gifts didn't have a barb/joke attached and that the poorer hobbits in his neighbourhood got particularly nice gifts. He was lying on the flat stones of Ravenhill, and no one was near. and if it was sadly lessened, yet many were glad, for now the northern world would be merrier for many a long day. Bilbo unsheathes his sword, Sting, and gives it to a somewhat awestruck Frodo, telling him that "the blade glows blue when orcs are . He looks more like a grocer than a burglar! (17) The dwarves had little faith in him, but throughout their journey they learn more about Bilbo. In this book, Bilbo Baggins goes on a journey that would change his life forever. You took mine about the bravest thing that Bilbo ever did, so I'm going to share another: "I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent!" said the king gravely. In what way have I earned such a gift, O hobbit? said the king. "You are needed and we have looked for you long. If one continues to take a step back and look at the big picture one will realize that all these characters serve a purpose of making the best selling book, Researched on page 43 the trolls are heard saying, Theres more to come yet, said Tom, or Im mighty mistook. Bilbo told Frodo he wanted to hold it again one last time, and while Frodo was rebuttoning his shirt Bilbo kind of turned into a monster and tried to get the ring back from Frodo. Yet even though you were willing to lay aside all your claim, I should wish that the words of Thorin, of which he repented, should not prove true: that we should give you little. ", "No!" Though you can be forgiven for thinking it is a Silmaril. Earn weekly rewards. guard for nearly 500 years (the number of years that had passed between the end of the Watchful Peace and the time the Dwarves were captured) certainly was reason for such questioning. He is the hero of the pack. Throughout The Hobbit, Bilbo displays the universal message that anyone can develop into a hero. (15.41-42). "Well, er, I thought, don't you know," said Bilbo rather confused, "that, er, some little return should be made for your, er, hospitality. Going on from there was the bravest thing he ever did. When Thranduil heard that the dragon Smaug was slain, he started to march with an army towards the Lonely Mountain, as he knew of the wealth of Thror, the last Dwarven king under the mountain, which the Dragon took. Then they halted, for the wizard and Bilbo would not enter the wood, even though the king bade them stay a while in his halls. Bilbo enters, slips on his ring to make himself invisible, and proceeds down the long, dark passage into Smaug's lair. When the dwarves found out that Bilbo was going to be their burglar they were skeptical. The shadow that crept into the forest was first thought to be a Nazgl. said Thorin. The Elves in the forest had about 400 years of a watchful peace, which ended in 2460, when Sauron returned with increased force. Having to be on He was invisible now. I suppose I shall be going home soon?". I mean even a burglar has his feelings. Answered by jill d #170087 on 9/3/2012 5:32 PM There was a breath of strange air in his cave. Last, but not least, Bilbo is willing to sacrifice his life for a cause bigger than himself. said Bilbo, and he turned his back on his adventure. Actually it was some days before Bilbo really set out. Smaug definitely has no right to possess any property within Erebor. You step onto the road, and if you dont keep your feet, theres no knowing where you might be swept off to., Sorry! In fact, when Thranduil questioned them and they refused to answer, he imprisoned them. their wounded and starving people. Praise has been blessed to Bilbo by a king in this division. "In what way have I earned such a gift, O hobbit?" O Elvenking!" As known before, the threshold guardians lasts as a particular one of the first test providers, as well as the guardian of the special world. Mischievous trolls were one of the first tasks met by Baggins causing him to become nervous and timid. said the king gravely. Because he lives a hero, one will not fail to recognize him. The Theft Act 1968: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/data.pdf. Bilbo didnt intend to permanently deprive the owner (see Simester and Sullivans, p. 538), Thorin, of his property. To me this shows that sometimes just showing up is half the battle. Stealing from a thief is still theft. The knowledge that the Arkenstone was in the hands of the besiegers burned in their thoughts; also they guessed the hesitation of Bard and his friends, and resolved to strike while they debated. He stumbles around, and sees that the goblins have been defeated. Indeed it was long before he had the heart to make a joke again. But if you hire somebody to steal your own property back from somebody else, that generally isnt theft. All Bilbo needed is a chance to prove the dwarves wrong, and that is what he gets when those same dwarves appear on his doorstep that sunny afternoon. In this instance lets assume that Bilbo was supposed to steal some property belonging originally to Thrr. Thranduil accepted the gift, but before they parted he added humorously: "I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent!" said the king gravely. Does Bilbo make the right ethical decision here? The elation felt by the hobbit afterwards is one of great significance. "But how is it yours to give?" The dwarves were making a stand still about their lords upon a low rounded hill. All that had happened after he was stunned, Bilbo learned later; but it gave him more sorrow than joy, and he was now weary of his adventure. It can be assumed that he was born sometime during the First Age or before, possibly in Doriath, the Sindarin kingdom in Beleriand, which was ruled by Elu Thingol and his Maian queen, Melian. Dwarves had time to fully prepare. "I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent," said the king gravely."And I name you elf-friend and blessed. I suppose not. The Eagles! he shouted. Upon one side were the Goblins and the Wild Wolves, and upon the other were Elves and Men and Dwarves. In this film, a party of dwarves is on a quest to salvage the wealth of their kin. And I don't know what I should have done with it when I got home. Smaug is red and gold, with fiery breath, sharp claws, and a hide as strong as a diamond. Even though Smaug is evil through and through, we get more narrative from his perspective than we do from any of the goblins. No doubt this could not have been easy for Thranduil. What dyer mean? said Bert(Tolkien, The Hobbit, 41). Days into the forest, constant hunger gnaws at the company, leading them to disperse round and round in an entranced dream-like state. "Good-bye and good luck, wherever you fare!" "It was a terrible battle. And Fili and Kili! This will show them. On its highest peak snow yet unmelted was gleaming pale. "Baggins!" That home was the great forest Greenwood the Great. They intended to go along the edge of the forest, and round its northern end in the waste that lay between it and the beginning of the Grey Mountains. In this case I'd go with s. 2(1) TA 1968 and argue that as long as he believed that he's taking something belonging to the Dwarves, it's not dishonest. In this post I will explain why I think that he isnt. He felt a different person, and much fiercer and bolder in spite of an empty stomach(170). Too many . I wish Thorin were living, but I am glad that we parted in kindness. You could tell what a Baggins would say on any questions without the bother of asking him (2). I would rather old Smaug had been left with all the wretched treasure, than that these vile creatures should get it, and poor old Bombur, and Balin and Fili and Kili and all the rest come to a bad end; and Bard too, and the Lake-men and the merry elves. I have drunk much of your wine and eaten much of your bread. he asked Gandalf that evening, as he lay wrapped in many warm blankets. In a sense, Bilbo is the worst burglar ever because he's too moral to keep anything he steals. "Farewell, King under the Mountain!" I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent, said the king gravely. There was no call and no echo of a song. He had passed from an uneasy dream (in which a warrior, altogether insignificant in size but provided with a bitter sword and great courage, figured most unpleasantly) to a doze, and from a doze to wide waking. "At any rate I am not yet one of the fallen heroes; but I suppose there is still time enough for that! Of course this argument is a bit tongue-in-cheek - there are no courts that could impartially decide over a dispute between the Dwarves or Erebor and the Men of Dale. . There was no lie in Bilbos eyes. "Do not make me kill you again, Merasmus!" A great memorable quote from the The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug movie on Quotes.net - [Bilbo is in the treasure room. Bilbo Baggins is quite a boring character yet he has some moments in which he is adventurous. Throughout Bilbos long journey the dwarves gain respect for him and Bilbo earns a good reputation. The most dreadful of all Bilbo's experiences" (281). Most define their hero as the knight in shining armor, but Mr. Baggins prevails as much more than that. It was said about the Silvan Elves that. The elf-host was on the march;. Even so, things did not work out smoothly. "I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent . Bilbo not only avoids the battle, he . "One autumn evening some years afterwards there was a ring at the door. A cave it might have been, but the place was filled with life and light. The Index of Names in The Silmarillion states about Thranduil1: Thranduil, who is referred to as "the Elvenking" in The Hobbit, appears throughout various texts in Tolkien's writings and yet is not well known. The Elvenking appreciates Bilbo's wit and generosity as he says his final farewell. "But I have a helm and a hard skull. Then Bilbo fled [with the cup]. Thranduil's father, Oropher, understood that no peace could last while Sauron remained undefeated. Perhaps this strong moral understanding of the importance of payment is why Bilbo is so reluctant to accept much treasure? I beg of you, said Bilbo stammering and standing on one foot, to accept this gift! and he brought out a necklace of silver and pearls that Dain had given him at their parting. Since I leave now all gold and silver, and go where it is of little worth, I wish to part in friendship from you, and I would take back my words and deeds at the Gate. The Eagles had long had suspicion of the goblins' mustering; from their watchfulness the movements in the mountains could not be altogether hid. (3.35). In that last hour Beorn himself had appeared no one knew how or from where. pest and disease control in agriculture; property management companies concord, nc; lean cuisine cook time microwave. "Farewell! He's a burglar. Even if his friends are fighting on the right side, that's not much comfort when he begins to think of the cost in lives. If Thorin plans to keep his treasure anyway, why does he make a show of listening to Bard at all? "I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent!" said the king gravely. ", "I am sorry. "I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent," said the king gravely. he said. Bilbo snuck to the camp of Thranduil and Bard during the night, hoping to find some way to end the siege. All the same I feel sick and my legs are like straws.". Return "As all things come to an end, even this story, a day came at last when they were in sight of the country where Bilbo had been born and bred" (299-300). The Wild was still the Wild, and there were many other things in it in those days besides goblins; but he was well guided and well guarded-the wizard was with him, and Beorn for much of the way-and he was never in great danger again. Obviously, that line in the first chapter that Bilbo looks "More like a grocer than a burglar" really smarts. Bilbo learned how to support his friends and how to be self reliant. Even the wizard had not escaped without a wound; and there were few unharmed in all the host. Looking into the valley he could see no living goblins. Tolkiens writings do not recount the fate of Thranduil. Hes found it, yes he must have., All that is gold does not glitter, Near the end of what was believed to be failing negotiations, Bard tried to persuade Thranduil to attack before the It's not just the Elvenking; he also leaves the stolen keys with the drunken guard in the Elvenking's dungeons so the . See "Mithril" for a good telling by Daeron- (V) of the ancient history of Bilbo's and Frodo's mithril shirt. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. It must be nice having such an easily defined, obviously wicked enemy to fight against. In fact I will go so far as to send you on this adventure (6). He tried to persuade Bilbo to stay with them, for his own safety. I would rather old Smaug had been left with all the wretched treasure, than that these vile creatures should get it, and poor old Bombur, and Balin and Fili and Kili and all the rest come to a bad end; and Bard too, and the Lake-men and the merry elves. That marks a hidden passage to the Lower Halls (19). It seems very uncomfortable, not to say distressing. Conclusively, Dawn take you all, and be stone to you! said a voice that sounded like Williams. That's not to say you have to be a LOTR scholar or Tolkien academic to post or enjoy this subreddit, but that we'd prefer mature topics of discussion here. (S. 6(1) TA 1968). Create your own unique website with customizable templates. He was willing to accept the responsibility for Gollum, the odd creature that was brought to him, under Gandalf's advise. This also excludes dishonesty: if dishonesty is already excluded if [the person] appropriates the property in the belief that he would have the other's consent if the other knew of the appropriation and the circumstances of it (s. 2(1)(b) TA 1968), then this must also apply if the legal owner of the property actually told the supposed thief to take it. Thranduil, a Sindarin Elf, remembered this detail from the history of Doriath. The Hobbit, JRR Tolkien, HarperCollins 2012 (softcover film tie-in edition) [cited as: The Hobbit]. He was a kindly little soul. Tea is at four; but any of you are welcome at any time!". Bilbo is a thief. Bilbo left with regret, for the flowers of the gardens of Beorn were m springtime no less marvellous than in high summer. What if someone went on a crazy, dangerous adventure and came back a hero? "Farewell, Balin!" he said; "and farewell, Dwalin; and farewell Dori, Nori, Ori, Oin, Gloin, Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur! "And I name you elf-friend and blessed. He also gives a lot instead of . Beorn indeed became a great chief afterwards in those regions and ruled a wide land between the mountains and the wood; and it is said that for many generations the men of his line had the power of taking bear's shape, and some were grim men and bad, but most were in heart like Beorn, if less in size and strength. During the Third Age, Thranduil is the only one who carries the title king among the Elves. (The concept of adverse possession wouldnt work in a place without courts anyway: the concept of limitation periods only works if theres a court where you can file your lawsuit to have your property returned to you.). Whatever Bilbo was supposed to take out of Erebor, it would have been a chattel and thus personal property. * (Weird formatting issue; the quote ends with "accordingly".). In this post Ill examine if Bilbo steals the cup he takes in Inside Information. Property belonging to another is defined as such: Property shall be regarded as belonging to any person having possession or control of it, or having in it any proprietary right or interest (not being an equitable interest arising only from an agreement to transfer or grant an interest). Before Frodo sets off, Bilbo gives him gifts for his journey. I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent, said the king gravely. By streams that never find the sea;, It will not be long now, thought Bilbo, before the goblins win the Gate, and we are all slaughtered or driven down and captured. said the hobbit uncomfortably. "As all things come to an end, even this story, a day came at last when they were in sight of the country where Bilbo had been born and bred" (299-300). And then quite suddenly in another flash, as if lifted by a new strength and resolve, he leaped. Other heroes in the story include such men like Gandalf, Beorn, The Lord of the Eagles, Bard, and even Thorin in the, The heros Journey begins with a call to an ordinary individual to leave the ordinary world.This calls prompts the individual to leave the common life to venture into the realm of the unknown.The journey continues with the individual leaving the ordinary world to descend into the special world.The decent into the special world brings the individual through different adventures and experiences that reveal weakness and allow for strength and development to conquer those weaknesses.Bilbo baggins journey represents the heros Journeyas he leaves the ordinary world as an ordinary hobbit,enters the special world as a developing warrior,and returns as an unexpected hero.He revealed his hobbit character and thinking most visibly by fainting,for. Explain please. The book The Hobbit, written by J. R. R. Tolkein, has many universal themes connected to finding out who someone really is. It was a long and cheerless road, but now that the goblins were crushed, it seemed safer to them than the dreadful pathways under the trees. At any rate I am not yet one of the fallen heroes; but I suppose there is still enough time for that (Tolkien, The Hobbit, 310)! "It is well that I have found you!" Thranduil accepted the gift, but before they parted he added humorously: Thranduil proved to be a team player. Moreover I am by right descent the heir of Girion of Dale, and in your hoard is mingled much of the wealth of his halls and towns, which old Smaug stole. The Eagles are coming!, I came from the end of bag, but no bag went over me. I have heard songs of many battles, and I have always understood that defeat may be glorious. And indeed, in 1050 of the Third Age, shadow crawled into the forest, taking hold of Amon Lanc in the south, where once Oropher's ancient dwelling was. My favorite line was when Thranduil said to Bilbo: "I will take your gift, Bilbo the Magnificent. Then Bilbo remembered his ring! "I will carry you down to the camp in the valley," said the man, and picked him lightly up. "Where are the Eagles?" May your beards never grow thin!" Of course he didnt. Victory had been assured before the fall of night, but the pursuit was still on foot, when Bilbo returned to the camp; and not many were in the valley save the more grievously wounded. No burrahobbits, but lots of these here dwarves. In 2850 Gandalf came once more to Dol Guldur and found that Sauron had collected by then all the seven rings of the Dwarf lords, in addition to the Nine with which he controlled his Nazgl. Get personalized recommendations. Otherwise I suppose I might have spent a warm and comfortable night in bed!" The forest became dark and men began to call it Taur-nu-Fuin (translated Mirkwood): forest under night.11, 12. they aided you in your distress, and in recompense you have thus far brought ruin only, though doubtless undesigned." He imprisoned Gollum and showed him kindness as Gandalf asked. The change is further displayed when he names his sword Sting, alluding to the heroism incited in him by the entrapping wretchedness.
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